For Fuzz Friday, here's a layout for the Fat Fuzz Factory in a 1590B in a more traditional orientation. All pots are board mounted as well as the Fat Switch. For C1 and C2 you'll probably want to experiment with values. Using an on/off/on switch gives you an extra option over the original. 3.3uF is a good place to start with one of them. Just a note, whatever value you chose will be in parallel with the existing 100nF cap. Thanks to p0mp0 for sending in his layout.
you have wrong at gate, comp and stab pots. GATE: 1st and 2nd legs are contecting with GND and 3th leg connect with 470ohm. COMP: 1st and 2nd legs are contecting with 47k and Emmiter of Q3 and 3th leg connect with stab pot 3th leg. STAB: 1st and 2nd legs are contecting with 9V dc and 3th leg connect with the remaining circuit.
Ιn both cases it will work properly but the pots will operate reverse!
http://cdn.toptenreviews.com/rev/scrn/medium/54098-inventobox7.jpg This schematic is from vxter Inventobox then contain fuzz factory, if we take the case of Volume pot that the 1st leg is connect with GND then we conclude 3 leg of pot connect at square shape on pcb... with this logic out the other connection of pots!!!
Chris Ver is telling no lies. Your both schematics of the fuzz factory from this blog are with these 3 pots connected incorrectly. Yes they will work, but will operate reverse.
I don't remember off the top of my head. Use sockets and experiment. Zvex has used several different transistors for Q2-3. AC122, 125, 128 should all work. Again, socket and experiment with PNP germaniums.
O.k. it works... Crazy(!!!) Fuzz. it's a bit wierd though, the volume of this thing is monstrous, i get to 9 on the knob and its WAY more than unity. maybe there is something wrong with my build?
also, if you use Taydas pots (with dust covers) either take off the covers or spae out the holes (with the drilling template). I found that using so many onboard pots is very tricky...
Assuming you wire the majority of the pots offboard it should fit fine horizontally. Don't have a drilling template for it that way though. The other Fuzz Factory layout fits ok in a 1590b and it's designed for the controls to be laid out like the original.
I'm new to electronics, so maybe my question could be stupid. The Fat Fuzz is nothing but a Fuzz Factory with a switch right? so how could Fat FF not work if the FF is working? there's nothing different but a 1M resistor, what's its function? thank you a lot! this site is really great!
oh yes, I've build this one over half a year ago and it works quite similar to a vexter fuzz factory. Only change i've made is using AC132's. It does oscillate great in the low end as well as high end. Only two things that I would like to change but didn't manage to sort out yet. Being that it's a very bright sounding fuzz, using it on my bass I loose a lot of low end. The other thing is that despite socketing I never found the right values for the capacitors on the switch. I barely hear a difference when it's not oscillating. It's not as fat as I hoped it to be but unlike many other pedals that aren't suited for bass this one gets toyed around with lot's of times. Verified!
thank jay for verifying! I built it and it works great! I used ac128 and for caps I put 10nf instead of 100nf and then 100nf and 1uf on the others, the difference is noticeable and I find it fat enough on my guitar. thanks guys!
You could, though you'd need to modify the biasing. It's not just going to work if you throw in silicon transistors. It's designed for low hFE germaniums.
when i turn the volume all the way down on my guitar i hear a lot of noise, is it normal? when the gate or comp knobs are up it doesn't do it. y used matsushitas b175 for transistors.
hello first of all congratulations for your work, I'm not an expert I wanted to ask you if you've ever built a fuzz factory 7 because I can not find anything about it,thanks a lot!
you have wrong at gate, comp and stab pots.
ReplyDeleteGATE: 1st and 2nd legs are contecting with GND and 3th leg connect with 470ohm.
COMP: 1st and 2nd legs are contecting with 47k and Emmiter of Q3 and 3th leg connect with stab pot 3th leg.
STAB: 1st and 2nd legs are contecting with 9V dc and 3th leg connect with the remaining circuit.
There seems to be differences between the various schematic on the net and either way will work. This layout follows this schematic (which I trust):
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Ιn both cases it will work properly but the pots will operate reverse!
Deletehttp://cdn.toptenreviews.com/rev/scrn/medium/54098-inventobox7.jpg
This schematic is from vxter Inventobox then contain fuzz factory, if we take the case of Volume pot that the 1st leg is connect with GND then we conclude 3 leg of pot connect at square shape on pcb... with this logic out the other connection of pots!!!
Chris Ver is telling no lies. Your both schematics of the fuzz factory from this blog are with these 3 pots connected incorrectly. Yes they will work, but will operate reverse.
DeleteFor the man with "Ample taste"!
ReplyDeletewhat is the real value of c1 and c2 in the official fat fuzz factory?
ReplyDeleteFor Q2 and Q3 , AC128 or AC122?
thanks a lot
I don't remember off the top of my head. Use sockets and experiment. Zvex has used several different transistors for Q2-3. AC122, 125, 128 should all work. Again, socket and experiment with PNP germaniums.
DeleteI found that 224nf for C1 and 1uf for C2 works the best and gives a lot of useful tones.
DeleteO.k. it works... Crazy(!!!) Fuzz. it's a bit wierd though, the volume of this thing is monstrous, i get to 9 on the knob and its WAY more than unity. maybe there is something wrong with my build?
ReplyDeletealso, if you use Taydas pots (with dust covers) either take off the covers or spae out the holes (with the drilling template). I found that using so many onboard pots is very tricky...
Oh, and the switch doesn't seem to do anything. I've put all sorts of caps from 3.3uF to 100uF, no change in signal... :(
ReplyDeleteAnd dimensions for PCB printing? anybody knows please? :)
ReplyDeleteThere are PDFs pre-scaled and with the dimensions for all layouts in the Transfer Image Library tab at the top of the page.
DeleteThere is no pdf of this pedal in the Zvex folder of Transfer Image Library
DeleteIt's combined with the regular Fuzz Factory PDF.
DeleteHi. Do you have a drilling template for horizontal orientation? Do you know if it fits in a 1590b with 15mm sized pots? Thanks.
ReplyDeleteAssuming you wire the majority of the pots offboard it should fit fine horizontally. Don't have a drilling template for it that way though. The other Fuzz Factory layout fits ok in a 1590b and it's designed for the controls to be laid out like the original.
DeleteAnyone verify this one?
ReplyDeleteI'm between this and the standard FF: I want to use 1590B and omit the spdt switch
I'm new to electronics, so maybe my question could be stupid. The Fat Fuzz is nothing but a Fuzz Factory with a switch right? so how could Fat FF not work if the FF is working? there's nothing different but a 1M resistor, what's its function? thank you a lot! this site is really great!
ReplyDeleteoh yes, I've build this one over half a year ago and it works quite similar to a vexter fuzz factory. Only change i've made is using AC132's. It does oscillate great in the low end as well as high end. Only two things that I would like to change but didn't manage to sort out yet. Being that it's a very bright sounding fuzz, using it on my bass I loose a lot of low end. The other thing is that despite socketing I never found the right values for the capacitors on the switch. I barely hear a difference when it's not oscillating. It's not as fat as I hoped it to be but unlike many other pedals that aren't suited for bass this one gets toyed around with lot's of times.
ReplyDeleteVerified!
thank jay for verifying! I built it and it works great! I used ac128 and for caps I put 10nf instead of 100nf and then 100nf and 1uf on the others, the difference is noticeable and I find it fat enough on my guitar. thanks guys!
ReplyDeletecan i build it with silicon pnp's instead?
ReplyDeleteYou could, though you'd need to modify the biasing. It's not just going to work if you throw in silicon transistors. It's designed for low hFE germaniums.
DeleteSir which resistors should i adjust for the biasing. Thanks and sorry for the long follow up
DeleteIt would work,.most of the the pots change the biasing anyway..
Deletewhen i turn the volume all the way down on my guitar i hear a lot of noise, is it normal? when the gate or comp knobs are up it doesn't do it. y used matsushitas b175 for transistors.
ReplyDeleteEven though it is verified nobody figured that the comp stab and gate are reversed? Great sounding fuzz and very compact layout...
ReplyDeleteSeems the schematic Pompo and I based this one on had the pot lugs labeled incorrectly. It's been fixed.
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ReplyDeletehello first of all congratulations for your work, I'm not an expert I wanted to ask you if you've ever built a fuzz factory 7 because I can not find anything about it,thanks a lot!
build this pedal but when i turn it on my Stab pot was burned. WTF?
ReplyDeleteI think that a low value resistor between +9v and pot leg should do the job and prevent stab pot from getting burned.
DeleteSame thing happened to me. Burnt 3 pots before i realized a trace from the base of Q1 was shorted to ground. Broke the short and she fired right up.
DeleteIs my stab pot burning what might be happening? I checked and there are no short on the tracks
ReplyDeletethis pedal is negative center power supply?
ReplyDeleteThanks! Thanos bless u!
Deleteare all schematics open source?
ReplyDeleteAll layouts are for DIY use. If you'd like to use them commercially, let me know and we can talk about a license.
DeleteHi !
ReplyDeleteI saw some comments about burning and reversed potentiometers, has it been fixed on the actual schematic ? :)
Thank you !