The FX25 was initially produced by DOD in the early 80s and is an OTA-based envelope filter/auto-wah. It's a fairly tweakable and you can find various mods on other sites, but this is for the stock layout. The original switching circuitry has been removed, so you can use true-bypass. An LM1458 is listed in the layout below, but just about any dual op-amp should work there (TL072, NE5532, JRC4558, etc.), so if you get a little distortion, try a different op-amp.
Update Aug. 10, 2016:
I've fixed the layout as per NapAlpha and Eduardo's comments below. Thanks for catching that guys. Sorry it took me so long to make the fix.
nap_alfa55 was right. change 2x 1k resistors (COORDINATE H/V C-P/S and D-P/S, up 13600)by 10k and connect C-S to K-J. WORK FINE. VERIFIED! any mod or change for bass?
Bad 1n4007 diode...short the 47r to ground. Replace it and no more resistor burn. But the effect still don't work as should be. I turn it on and it works well til' 30 to 40 secs of play then it's down. Any help???
genial, entonces si lo hago tal cual esta la foto en el layout va a funcionar? es que no se si al decir que lo corrigieron se ven reflejados esos cambios en la imagen
Im into audio probing the circuit. From input to pin3 of ic 1458 the audio seems to be ok even for pins 1,2 and 7. For pins 5 and 6 the audio volume drops. I need to max the amps volume to hear the audio output. I tried to test the directly at the output and theres the slightest volume of audio that I can hear with amps volume maxed. The voltage for me are normal for both ic. I will try to get the exact voltage later when im free to get my hands on it again. I use LM13700. And can you point out the connectivity of the audio path circuit from input to output? Thank you
Pin 7 is the output of the 2nd half of the opamp, so if the volume is ok out of there I would think it's ok. I'd guess the issue you're having is later in the circuit. Here's the schematic for reference:
si, pero no la subieron aca. es esta. http://tubehead123.blogspot.com/2015/01/dod-fx-25-envelope-filter-lowpass.html la hice con un switch on-on que conmute las salidas y suena muy muy bien
Hi, i really have issues connecting the potentiometers. It says 2 and 3 connect on one pin? In my count, 1 and 3 are the fixed resistance and 2 is the rotor, so ti variable resistance. So i connect one of the fixed pins and the rotor together to the same pin and the other side of the fixed resistor to the other? I assembled it but it does not work at all...
On the PCB there is no connection between C7 and R12-R13. The resistors R12 and R13 are 10K and not by 1K
ReplyDeleteHello layot this work? There I gotta change ?
ReplyDeleteThanks
i did this layout but no sound at all.. helpless!
ReplyDeletei've got the same problem. any help??
Deletewhat's the reason for that?
ReplyDeleteis there someone verified this layout here?
ReplyDeletenap_alfa55 was right. change 2x 1k resistors (COORDINATE H/V C-P/S and D-P/S, up 13600)by 10k and connect C-S to K-J. WORK FINE. VERIFIED!
ReplyDeleteany mod or change for bass?
Is it verified? Thank u!
ReplyDeleteYes, work fine. Remember to connect R12/R13 with C7 and change it with 10k
DeleteSorry about the error in the original board, guys. Thanks for catching that missing connection. I've corrected it and it's good to go.
ReplyDeletethank you. sound very good in bass
DeleteBuild this one with 47r ( did not found 51r). Worked for few seconds then burned de 47r twice! Any help? Thanks!
ReplyDeleteCould be your power supply. Maybe use a high wattage resistor there?
ReplyDeleteBad 1n4007 diode...short the 47r to ground. Replace it and no more resistor burn. But the effect still don't work as should be. I turn it on and it works well til' 30 to 40 secs of play then it's down. Any help???
Deletei had this problem but i double check and had a short on my traces check your connections
Deletehello. Can i use lm13700?
ReplyDeleteYeah, a 13700 should be fine.
DeletePut as VERIFIED! I just finished and it works very good! I made it with a LM13700 and MC1458.
ReplyDeleteGreetings from Corrientes, Argentina!
Excellent! Thanks
Deletegenial, entonces si lo hago tal cual esta la foto en el layout va a funcionar? es que no se si al decir que lo corrigieron se ven reflejados esos cambios en la imagen
DeleteYes it should work.
Deletecan i request for a dodo fx25 in a 1590A without the footswitch? thanks and more power..
ReplyDeleteIm into audio probing the circuit. From input to pin3 of ic 1458 the audio seems to be ok even for pins 1,2 and 7. For pins 5 and 6 the audio volume drops. I need to max the amps volume to hear the audio output. I tried to test the directly at the output and theres the slightest volume of audio that I can hear with amps volume maxed. The voltage for me are normal for both ic. I will try to get the exact voltage later when im free to get my hands on it again. I use LM13700.
ReplyDeleteAnd can you point out the connectivity of the audio path circuit from input to output?
Thank you
Pin 7 is the output of the 2nd half of the opamp, so if the volume is ok out of there I would think it's ok. I'd guess the issue you're having is later in the circuit. Here's the schematic for reference:
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DeleteAre the potentiometers log or lin? I've also seen a picture of an original fx25 with one of the pots reading: C500K?
ReplyDeleteThe B prefix means lin. Those are what were specified in the schematic I believe. Rev. log pots may improve the sweep of the controls. YMMV.
DeleteI tried 100k, 250k, 500k log and lin. It doesnt change that much at least for me ears. Maybe a doberman could tell the difference.
DeleteThanks for sharing
This might be a silly question but 4148 is 1n or 2n?
ReplyDeleteThey're diodes, so 1N
Deletees mejor el lm13600 o el lm13700?
ReplyDeleteThey should both work fine in this circuit.
Deletehello, has this layout been fixed? then where is the location of R12 & 13 and C7 I only see the value, thank you
ReplyDeleteYes it's verified.
Deleteouh.. thanks..
DeleteAlguna modificación para bajo ?
ReplyDeletesi, pero no la subieron aca. es esta.
Deletehttp://tubehead123.blogspot.com/2015/01/dod-fx-25-envelope-filter-lowpass.html
la hice con un switch on-on que conmute las salidas y suena muy muy bien
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ReplyDeleteHi! Thanks for your work. What should I do exactly about the pots numbered 2/3?
ReplyDeleteYou just connect those two lugs together and then run a wire to the corresponding pad.
Deletehi, Can i replace diode 4001 with 4148 too?
ReplyDeleteit's just a polarity protection diode
Deleteor use a 4007
DeleteThanks bro!
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ReplyDeleteHi. Have to hit strings really hard to open filter..can I change something to open it without hitting too hard?
ReplyDeleteHi, i really have issues connecting the potentiometers. It says 2 and 3 connect on one pin? In my count, 1 and 3 are the fixed resistance and 2 is the rotor, so ti variable resistance. So i connect one of the fixed pins and the rotor together to the same pin and the other side of the fixed resistor to the other?
ReplyDeleteI assembled it but it does not work at all...